Pastor Ray begins in John 12:24-25 and continues with very similar words, spoken by Jesus on different occasions and gets to the core of what it means to die to self. Listen and determine in your heart that you will allow Jesus to bring you to the end of you. The only way that you or I will ever be fruitful in Jesus is to die to all but Him, that my dear one will produce many tears and much pain. The message is simple and clear yet profound. Once we've settled the question in our hearts, Jesus will bring you and I through by His mighty power!